Editorial: Cell Phones Banned From Concerts?
By Martine Ehrenclou
At a recent Beth Hart concert in Los Angeles, I watched a woman poke a fan in front of her who was holding up her cell phone to capture one of Hart’s songs. She hissed, “Put your phone away.”
It’s often older concert goers who make a fuss over cell phones. And I understand the qualms—no one really wants to look at a cell phone screen that might be blocking their view of the artist on stage. But is it really such a big deal?
Personally, I don’t mind cell phones at concerts as long as flash isn’t used and ringers are silenced. They’ve become so commonplace in our culture and to me, they aren’t much more than a minor annoyance. At least the use of phones keeps fans’ attention on the performance.
What I do find intrusive is people talking to one another during a show, loudly at times, to hear each other over the music. It interferes with the listening experience and it’s disrespectful to the band. Because their focus is on each other and not on the artist they came to see.
Sometimes I want to say “Shhhh” to loud talkers at concerts. Have I done it? Yes, once. Two guys next to me at a Gov’t Mule concert were so busy yacking with each other that I couldn’t focus on the performance, much less hear it.
The big debate over cell phones at concerts is a non-starter for me. Because if the band is on fire, you tend to see more phones clustered in the air to capture the magic on stage. Fans are focused on shooting the performance instead of talking with friends. The band has their attention.
I view a concert crowd with cell phones high in the air as a compliment to the musicians on stage. The attention is on them.
Besides, I enjoy some of the concert videos uploaded to YouTube. There are many shows across the country, even the world, I can’t attend and watching a video of a special night can be exciting. In fact, if the artist is really good, I’ll search their tour schedule to see if they’re playing in my city because I liked what I saw on the video. That is more common than you might think.
For some music artists, mobile phones and videoing is a thorny topic. More and more are pushing back against phones at their concerts. I understand their point of view that phones can create a barrier between them and the audience. Bruno Mars told The Los Angeles Times “With cameras, you’re like, ‘I don’t know if I want to try out this dance move tonight’.” The fear is that a misstep might end up on social media. I get that. Who wants documentation of a sour note on the internet?
Some artists and bands are prohibiting phones, requiring fans to lock their phones in Yondr pouches. Jack White, Bob Dylan, John Mayer, Madonna, Beyonce, and Adele have implemented cell phone bans at their concerts and have expressed frustration about them interfering with their interactions with the audience.
Are fans actually missing out on the live concert experience by snapping photos or videoing a song? Or have phones become a part of the live music experience as with the rest of our culture and it’s time to adjust?
“Are fans missing out on the live concert experience by videoing with cell phones ?”
There’s a misconception by music artists that concert fans are more enamored by their cell phones than the artists themselves on stage. That’s probably not true for most people. Capturing the performance and immortalizing it seems to be the thrill. It’s a souvenir of sorts from an experience that can be relived.
There’s something to be said for recording a few songs of a concert that actually benefits the artist. Passionate about the music, you share it and turn others on to it. Isn’t that good marketing for musicians?
Take the Grateful Dead. They allowed concert goers to record their shows. Fan-recorded cassettes were collected, traded and shared with other fans. When album sales slumped, new fans attended Grateful Dead concerts after hearing the shared concert tapes.
The late Jerry Garcia had encouraged recording of their live shows, even creating a “tapers section” for fans to set up their recording equipment at their shows. In the mid 80s, recording and trading became a Grateful Dead sub-culture and proved to be very successful marketing for the band. Dead Heads were encouraged to swap tapes. Drummer Mickey Hart said in this article , “So then we made sections, just for the tapers; and that was a brilliant move as far as us getting our music out to millions of people who would never hear it. People wouldn’t buy our records because they weren’t up to par. So it was quite good fortune actually.”
“Jerry Garcia encouraged recording of their live shows.”
For a different take on this subject, Bob Dylan has banned all smartphones from his upcoming gigs in the UK later this year as he aims to prevent unauthorized footage of his gigs released online. According to Yahoo, concert attendees will be required to lock their devices in a provided Yondr pouch and will stay locked unless fans enter a phone access zone.
Apparently, Dylan and other major artists are concerned about loss of income if fans film their shows and upload to social media. They claim loss of revenue from their DVDs if footage is available online. See here.
When have you not purchased a major artist’s DVD if there are cell phone videos of the performance online? Mobile phone video is not even close to professional quality video. Consider the professional videographer and camera equipment, the variety of angles, the zoom.
Is it possible that certain artists want to control fan videos because professional videos for DVDs and the like can make them sound and appear better?
Others reject the idea of recording concert performances and uploading them to social media because they might satisfy fans enough so that they don’t attend the live shows. How can anyone believe that a cell phone video of a band’s performance could replace attending a live show? If that were true, livestreaming at its height during the pandemic would have all but obliterated concert attendance.
Live Nation reports the highest quarterly concert attendance ever, with concert attendance up 20% as compared to the same quarter in 2019 (pre-pandemic.)
Do I like staring at cell phone screens at concerts? No, but I have pretty much adjusted to them. From front door Ring videos to security cameras that film entire cities, I just can’t get all worked up about cell phone videos at concerts. And at $15-30 for a Yondr pouch, multiplied by 20,000 seats for a large venue, it seems like a very expensive option.
I welcome your thoughts on this. Please comment below.
I would not have a problem if phones were banned. I would just leave mine in my car. I have taken photos at concerts, but it is not necessary for me. I only do it because I can. I’m there for the music, the experience of a live show. Personally, I would rather buy a DVD to watch than a video from someone’s phone. Just my opinion.
I agree that most times cell phones are not an annoyance. There is one venue I attend a lot that people need to be more considerate though. The Rams Head in Annapolis does not want people standing so someone directly in front of me who is holding their phone up high is disturbing the experience. When I am using my phone to take a picture or video I make sure I am not obstructing anyone else’s view. If I can’t do that I don’t take the shot. I also believe that exposure to videos on youtube encourages people to explore more about an artist and either buy a cd or dvd or attend a show.
Put that phone DOWN! I personally detest all the phones, and all the bobbing and weaving I have to do just to see the ARTIST I paid darn good money to see and hear. I saw Steely Dan with a friend at the Borgata in Atlantic City recently, and they had a ban on the devices, yielding to a great night while immensely enjoying the music and the performance of the band – the reason I came in the first place. If you wanna use your cellphone as an occasional “solidarity light” like we used to use our Bic’s back in the day, I’m OK with that, but I can’t STAND the distraction and the cheap, hollow, self-serving atmosphere it creates on what should be a very enjoyable time for everybody. BAN THE PHONES!
I have no problems with cell phones at a concert when they’re used respectfully.
I have taken photos, and shot short videos, not to share, but for my personal enjoyment.
I am always aware of the people surrounding me while doing so.
Talking during a show I will not tolerate. I have shushed, and stand by my feelings that it’s downright rude to the artist, and the concert goers.
Thanks for addressing this topic.
Phones are fine with me. Some people need to learn how to dim the screen though.
I enjoy shooting concerts and some people think I am missing part of the show but I have a better view than anyone. My new phone has quite the lens arsenal but will never match up to a dslr.
To me it boils down to respect of others. People standing and filming blocking the views of other is bad- on the other hand you also see people crouching to get 20-30 second clip – that’s cool. People have to respect the other concert goers who are trying to see and hear the show. Just me sayin
I pretty much agree that phones used courteously and discreetly do not bother me. Unfortunately there is more than a few folks at almost every concert I go to these days are not considerate of their fellow concert goers. I have paid premium prices for seats close to stage on an aisle or a rail only to have somebody come down from behind me and then stand in front of me and proceed to video the show.
One of my biggest peeves is for somebody to arrive late and insist on crawling over us or making us stand up or move during the the first song or two and not waiting until there is a break.
My wife and I pretty much now limit our concert viewing to shows at smaller venues or supper clubs. The staff at these venues tend regulate and prevent rude behavior.
I have been a Player/Songwriter for 50 years.
In 1980 I played a Show & the Crowd held up
Bic Lighters in Approval.
Now……when the Crowd approves…..The Crowd holds up Cell Phone Flashlights!! :-D
The Technology changes with the Times!!
Relax…….All Is Well!! :-D
Snapping a few photos is one thing but Unfortunately too many people seem to think it is OK to block the view of others when they are “filming” the performance- like they are on a more important mission than us folks that simply wish to see the artists while listening to the show.
It’s an extension of the obsession with social media. People are too attached to their phones- give them a rest, leave them home or in the car and join us enjoying the show in the moment rather than trying to “capture” the moment for later.
Aren’t most peoples tickets to enter venue on their phones? So I’m supposed to what put it in a bag, and be charged for it, then wait in line at end of show to get my phone back? I don’t think so.
Ban the cellphones. You don’t have sex while looking at your phone. You don’t use your cellphone inside the Church. What about theaters? The reason is spiritual: Art is meant to unify humans and make us experience something above our daily life; the moment you take a picture you destroy the ritual.
You make the artist a trophy, a personal toy. He is singing not for your pleasure, not for your instagram. Art or dumbphone, choose one.
I just went to Bono’s book Experience at the Beacon Theatre in NYC last night. It was fine getting and having your cell in the case. You don’t know what time it is….. On another note, leaving after the show was a nightmare! It was terrible. Being in the balcony, everyone wants to leave at the same moment. I was very worried about getting out with out an incident. We were packed like sardines. No thanks, I won’t attend another concert if that is the restriction. That was unsafe at best.
Leave your phone in your pocket you absolute morons. No one wants to see your BS footage, and no one cares if you were there or not. You’re not that interested. Gtfo with your phones
To me the problem is courtesy in general. Phones are just another symptom. It can be a concert or just a movie. Turn the thing off if you’re going to be selfish and loud! Don’t have a loud conversation about the movie/concert or your next party two seats down from a flick I just dropped 150 bucks plus and waited two months to see.
I need my phone to adjust my hearing. I have cochlear implants and at concerts, I use my phone a lot to make adjustments to hear my best. I cannot do that before the venue, I have to do that during the venue as it changes a lot.
We went to a LANY concert in London UK recently and the difference to gigs in Manchester UK (where we live) was crazy. We have never seen so many phones held up ALL the time during a concert. We saw LANY IN Manchester and the crowd sang every song and interacted with Paul throughout the concert. At the London gig he was noticeably getting pissed off with getting nothing back from the crowd.
We noticed that there seemed to be a majority of east asians in the crowd which may have contributed, but I think it’s just a north south thing in the UK as well.
Personally, I don’t like looking past a sea of distracting screens. I also agree about people shouting at each other during the music. I’ve told several to shut the fk up.